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Stop interferring in our internal affairs. I am personally against the death penalty. What would be your reaction if an african president wanted to force you to change your laws concerning this sentence making allusion of the respect of the human rights ?
Why does the western society keep shoving shit down the rest of the world’s throat?? 🙄🙄He said what he said and I’m sure many other African and non-western countries president’s agree but are too afraid to speak up
Long live Kenyatta 🇰🇪✊🏽
OttoUrsus okay okay so the west has an ‘equal society’ bruh black people and other ethnic minority’s still get treated bad here,women still don’t get equal pay, the gap between the rich and poor is still very VERY big, many people in the west actually still live in poverty it’s just that the media doesn’t show that and the list goes on and on. I don’t support discrimination neither does president kenyatta but what I do support is that Kenyans and other nations have the right to say what’s morally right and what’s morally wrong and western societies must DEAL WITH IT and not but in. Not everyone supports the LGBT community in fact the only region that actually fully supports it is the west. President Kenyatta was elected for a reason, to represent the nation of Kenya and so far he’s doing an amazing job at it👌🏽
In our African cult we don’t agree with being gay and everyone knows that. Only in western world were they allow every stupid thing. Honestly those stupid gay conversation are even acceptable to talk about cause we know its nothing. If Europe wants gay rights , please get all gay people and find a place for them in your nations cause Us we do not want that stupidity and foolishness in Africa. Gay is genetic bra bra bra fuckoff then those genetics must be in Europe.
@The Centurion it is a fact homosexuality is not damaging. And it IS an issue there, the law causes the discrimination issue, just as when women could not vote, the law caused the issue, or when blacks did not have the same rights, the law caused the issue, that's what's happening in kenya right now. Discrimination is always an issue, and kenya is discriminating people, is that simple.
@OttoUrsus It is not an issue. It is their law, a fallout of deliberations linked to their culture and remains so until it changes.
Contrary to what you think - the Kenyan legal system calls it sexual perversion and finds it damaging to the individual, the family and the society. Maybe Kenya doesn't want the complications of politicising second nature.
What else can happen? Legalisation of pedosexuals, ecosexuals, 58 genders, enforcing gender pronouns? Where do you draw the line on freedom?
Listen, it can change. Look at Botswana for instance, it's been legalized there
Case in point - despite the public denouncement of racism (*A Primary Human Rights issue*) by Americans it is still alive and well even in law enforcement with cases of racial killings being recorded up to yesterday.
Pressure from Western advocates especially politicians and main stream media will do nothing but further stoke public resentment and harm towards said community. It won't be the government anymore.
Kenya still has genocide, terrorism, diseases, poverty, corruption, housing, potable water, education to battle with. Same sex relationships remain a non issue today.
@The Centurion It is an issue because there are gay people in kenya and it is illegal there. It wouldn't be an issue if there werent gay people in kenya, or if there weren't laws against it. And the things that don't harm anyone (like homosexuality) must not be illegal, that's equality, you must be free to be who you are, you must not be forced to hide it.
@OttoUrsus In America you can have beef, In India its sacrilege to harm a cow, In Europe and US gay pride parades are allowed, you can't try that in Ghana, In America, the state of Georgia prohibits abortions, not so in California..... Laws of the Land, *not persecution.*
Christiane Amanpour and President Obama tried so hard to make gay rights an issue with President Kenyatta... He said its a non issue. There are far more important things to discuss in Kenya. Sexual preference doesn't top the list. Thats sensible. And even after the more important issues are discussed its best to leave sexual preferences alone.
She tried 😂 ...you are not going to make African ppl accept homosexuality and I myself love Africa for standing firm on its beliefs America is gay and trying to make the world gay it’s on kid shows and everything I’m sick of it do ya thing in your own privacy it’s cool just not in public
@chosen people you fool he is discriminating for taking the rights away form a specific group of people, that's discrimination you genius. And homosexuals are only 4-10% of the population you ignorant, making it legal is no danger to the safety of humanity you fool
How is that discrimination
He is telling you what he don't like or stand for.
I'm for pro creation
If they keep sticking each other in the buttocks and licking each other how in the
World are you gonna survive.
Shut up .you make no sense at all.
@OttoUrsus Have you seen how the LGBT folks behave? Parading naked in front of kids, as a pro pedophile it may not bother you. Intolerant for anyone who disagrees with them in a violent and disgusting way. Are like a recluse?
Kenya has other priorities.....
Yet these comments seems totally fixated on judging others for their most private affairs.
And maybe not spending time investigating, arresting, prosecuting and imprisoning gays
would free up limited state employees to concentrate on those priorities?
In the early 60's President Kennedy had private meetings with the Saudi king and Ethiopia's Haile Selassie. He managed to get both of them to finally start the process of ending slavery in their nations. At the time there were comments made about Western leaders imposing western values on Asian/African cultures. Now (2019) would anyone make that same argument? JFK helped free millions from slavery and continue the process of ensuring that slavery would be wiped out globally. Now I believe the global acceptance of homosexuals is necessary to protect the millions of people who have no choice but to be sexually attracted to the same sex - it's not something any Ugandan or Iranian would choose to be. But also to make the entire world a safe place for gays.
It;s all very well to say these people have the right to choose their values but what about the members of those societies who face extreme punishments for simply following their deepest natures? Do their rights not count?
“This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.” I John 1:5-6 NKJV
Why exactly is he “going to get himself into trouble”? He gave a very reasonable response to the question. There was not a trace of hate in his response at all. You may not agree with his view but he gave a respectful response. Amanpour is just an overpaid talking head.
The white woman said to the black man, that he would get into trouble. Keep your eyes and ears open, for white Jezebels and White Ahabs, and all Jezebels, and Ahabs.
In any society homosexuals are less than 3%. When homosexuality is taught as a normal sexual behavior. I have problem with it. Immoral white women, and immoral white people like her. Always end-up destroying economies, and starting wars for the "White Global Common Good". 😡🇺🇸
@OttoUrsus Who's definition of Humanitarian? White Atheist Europeans? I don't trust white atheist and their suppose moral values. They have immoral values passing as moral values. Africans, Arabs, and Asians live as they please with their cultural norms.
@Wizdumbbk If Africans, Arabs, and Asians people execute their homosexuals, that is their cultural norms. I don't have objections. What does crime against humanity mean? Is that another white European atheist redefinition.
Well ask yourself, if someone is gay should they be arrested? should them be thrown in jail? should they be mutilated or shot in the head? if this is found to be happening in Kenya then YES he hill get in trouble because he is the leader of a country that is committing crimes against humanity... they same way they hung Nazi's in the street for crimes they will do him. The same way they Hung Saddam Hussein they will do him. Its one thing to not agree with a gay lifestyle, its another thing to make it punishable by law
She is trying to help him, same say she same way she has warned many Muslim leaders before bombs were dropped from the sky... its hard to say Haha when they are about to execute you for crime against humanity
Misleading title cnn. Its as if you are trying to make him and to a greater extent Kenyans look bad. This type of media is full of hypocrites claiming to be unbiased, but clearly you are and you only focus on your own perspective of the story.
The CNN host during this interview was at best disrespectful and unprofessional.
@OttoUrsus you are mistaken. You need to check the laws in Kenya. We have none indicating gays or otherwise. We just don't care how you get it in. Get your facts right. Africa is a continet with different laws in different states. In Kenya, we just don't care about that shit.
In Kenya we have a lot of problems and gays rights isn't one of them. It is not a priority to Kenyans. Whether you are gay or not no one cares. That's something you guys from the western need to understand.
Liberals: indifferent to their own racism, and forced ideology.
Keep this up and you'll inspire a new civil war or WW3. The seeds have been sown and you shall reap the whirlwind from which they are sown...
They force every human to have the same culture as them , I feared someday they will vote for incest rights and pedophilia , and the real victims are the new generations who will lose their minds and see the woman is man and the man is woman and then they live in depression because if these idiots , if you want to be gay have fun be gay but don’t force people to think that you’re right and normal.
@David Willis every single sovereign nation must be equalitarian. Under your stupid logic it would be acceptable if slavery was legal in the usa because usa is a sovereign nation, that's why you're wrong. And yes we must have equal rights in order to be a humanitarian society, if whites can vote, then blacks must be allowed to vote too, if heterosexual relationships are legal, then homosexual relationships must be legal too.
@OttoUrsus they are a sovereign nation who has the ability to govern themselves. I dont care if they treat any equal or not. We are not equal. None of us. We are individually unique. That word equal is misused. I can not treat someone as my equal if ty hey are not. Treating them with respect is a different issue. I dont treat my boss like I do my friends at home. Thats called unequal treatment. I dont treat my lady like I do others. She is my lady and is worth more to me than all others. I dont treat murderer like I would a priest. I wouldnt treat a rapist as I would a king. We are not equal. We will never be equal. We are perfectly unique. No two alike. Even twins share different personalities. I dont want any of you to treat me like you do everyone else. I want you to treat me as an individual. I want you to treat me with respect to my character not the characters of others.
What truth . That it is ok to oppress free will that God has given to everyone whether you like it or not.? Yes that is the truth.
The truth is people have the right to be hell bound and wicked. More truth you ,that president and his homophobic society has no heaven or hell to put people in. People need to mind their own asses dick and pussy. Why because only God get to say depart from me. Not you not I and not him.
@Patron Lulihoshi Shangalume go and read about history. There were homosexual acts inside africa way before you had any contact with colonizers. Dont speak if you dont know. And god doesn't hate homosexuality.
@OttoUrsus This conversation is pointless and getting off-track.
My final words are that, it's not up to the likes of CNN and the international, Left-wing biased media to decide what the laws in Kenya - or anywhere else, should be.
@Stu Mas pedophilia harms victims, homosexuality doesn't. And yes what I said does automatically follow the logic. If whites can vote, then blacks must be allowed to vote too. That's equality. If heterosexual relationships are legal, then homosexual relationships must be legal too, that's equality
@OttoUrsus Sorry, but your logic is faulty.
It does NOT automatically follow that, since heterosexuality is legal, then homosexuality should be too.
Where are you going to draw the line? By your reasoning, would you say paedophiles are also being discriminated by the law?
@Des Troya it IS science and objective truth, every single investigation ever made in relation to this topic over the course of decade have concluded your sexual orientation can not be changed nor influenced in any way. Read and learn about a topic before you speak about it. You ignorant.
@OttoUrsus You assert, that is your belief system. It isn't science or objective truth. Secondly, "targeting children" means targeting them with perverted propaganda, I never said "they are definitely turning X number of people gay".
Will some? Perhaps. Will other bad effects happen to them as a result of over sexualization? Definitely so.
And either way LGBT needs to leave kids alone, you are a fringe freak minority and your morals are not ours.
@Des Troya I didn't answer your question because the question itself makes no sense, "targeting children" is not possible since a child can not be converted in a gay person. You can not become gay, just as a gay person can not become heterosexual
Fake news, He didn't say anything the headline comprehended! Anti colonialism is the essence of Democracy and white dumberican nazocracy is anti Democratic..White nazi irano fascists telling non white people about democracy is like prostitiues lecutring about moral chastity or KKK lecturing Black Americans about civil rights! Civil rights like democracy is a non white post colonial invention of Gandhi Mandela
Yeah sure, sending to jail gay people ( at least 5% the population) is not an important matter.
This president would ratter let gay people have a shitty iligal life than hurt his homophobic voters' feelings
@Blue Jay the population in the entire planet. And homosexuality has been accepted in many different countries and societies over the course of history you ignorant fool, take a fucking book before you speak you idiot. Some of the great civilizations like the greeks, romans an indians accepted homosexuality. Everybody knows it you ignorant bitch
@OttoUrsus You mean the population in the west?
For a god damn sec take your eurocentric glasses off and look at the whole planet.
Dont you think its odd that homosexuals arent liked across borders and culture and time?
Its almost like homosexuality is so rare that they never got any form of repsentation for for thousands years maybe because there are so few due to it being a mental conditon.
I don't understand how making ilegal being gay, thus at least 5% of the population, is not an important matter.
5% of the population has to live hiding their love, sexual desires and affection. (if you don't think that is terrible then imagine a life without a partner, without a family of your own and without sex)
The worst part is that he refused to say why he is repressing 5% of his population without any reason.
The answer? He probably does belive homosexuality is gross or he does not want to erase the laws that make gays illegal because if he does then he will lose the vote of every homophobic Kenyan.
This is how white liberals truly view people of color. The disrespect!!! We’ve been telling you guys!! Why do you guys think we complain here in America about the lefties. And you guys thought we were just talking out of our ass.
Despite efforts there was still 53000 new cases of AIDS diagnosed in Kenya for 2017. The country also has 1.5 million people living that are HIV positive. It is still the 4th highest ranking globally for AIDS. Many African countries outlawed homosexuality in efforts to combat the epidemic. In short they feel like ridding the country of this terminal illness is more important than being concerned about such a small minorities equal rights.
@Tony Tone Your education is severely lacking.
One way to help spread AIDS is to outlaw knowledge of how to prevent the spread of AIDS to sexual minorities. Ignorance won't work. Sexual minorities interact very frequently with sexual majorities because sexuality is not fixed. So AIDS is rampant.
Denying equality for gay and transgender people has nothing to do with AIDS. It is outright homophobia. By creating a personage that everyone can hate, the government is seen in a good light. Much can be profitable if society is involved in hate campaigns.
How can you outlaw homosexuality when it is already outlawed? British laws tried this and now half the world strives for justice. Queen Victoria deserves Hell for her legacy.
Straight people have gay kids or weren't you aware of this fact?
You should probably seek another college for your studies since that one is more interested in spreading ignorance than facts.